Showing posts with label bigot point. Show all posts
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Wednesday, 20 July 2016

Bigot Point: Political Correctness

Bigot Point: Political Correctness


 I have really only ever experienced this term used when someone defends a minority or discriminated party with that action of defense being dismissed as mere political correctness (or PC).
 The term political correctness is often used by some as a pejorative to shut down opposition to their offensive behavior.
But what exactly does the term mean?



 The avoidance of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against.



 So political correctness is basically being polite and not discriminating against or vilifying those who are already being vilified or discriminated against.
 In other words political correctness is not laying the boot in when someone is already on the ground bleeding. 

 What kind of monster would proudly proclaim that they were not politically correct?
 If you take a look at those who oppose "political correctness' it wont be long until you see some racist, sexist, homophobic or generally just bigoted views.
 Growing up i just heard the term political correct and assumed it meant to be aligned with the current government or something. Of course later after seeing the term used to silence the cry's of the oppressed i came to think of it as merely a term used by bigots to try to make illegitimate valid criticism of their behavior. I still never really liked the term political correctness and never wore it so to speak.


 But it is only that some are saying marriage equality is political correctness, that i actually looked up what the term meant. 
 I suppose the current marriage laws do exclude and marginalize a discriminated and often insulted group of people so marriage equality could be considered politically correct. But its far more truthful to say marriage equality is just fair and equal treatment of Australians. 


 I was at this party one night and i got motioned over to a conversation between this burly biker type and a few others. The person who motioned me over said something like 
"Dropbear might have an interesting perspective on this'
So burly biker looks at me and says; "Them gays they want to force schools into not saying mother and father, its political correctness garbage!"
 Now i hadn't actually heard of the story, but could imagine it was probably about a same sex couple asking a teacher to say parent or guardians so there kid wasn't excluded. I replied:
"I didn't get the memo, but i don't see a problem with teachers saying parents or guardians, it makes sense as not every child has a mother and father."
 He interrupted saying "We shouldn't change things just for the gays. That instead schools should be forced to say mother and father"
 I continued "Well its not just for gay parents, there are single parent family's, there are adopted children, blended family's, and children with guardians like i had.
Its only a minor change to wording, so why not do it if little billy doesn't have to be reminded of his dead mother every time the teacher tells the kids to get their mother and father to do something, it doesn't hurt anyone to be inclusive."
 He looked puzzled and looked around the group of people, it was pretty clear common sense had prevailed with them, he looked down a bit and said "i hadn't thought of it that way, the radio made it sound different."
 I sympathized saying something like "They sure do like to stir the pot."




 In any event being politically correct isn't a bad thing, its basically not being a bad person, but i still think the term is an unnecessary insult word used by those who don't want the facts to get in the way of their mistreatment of others. 
 If you are guilty of using this term in an attempt to stifle criticism of your opinion, maybe actually listen to the person instead. They may have knowledge you don't possess. If instead of trying to shut them down, you make a valid argument  you could convince them that you are right, try it, because everyone likes to be correct.


 So i still wont be wearing a PC badge any time soon. However next time someone trys to insult me by calling me politically correct, i may just say;
"Thank you, i do try to be a decent human being."


This is an interesting site: Religious Tolerance

Monday, 11 July 2016

Bigot Point: Marriage Equality will lead to Pedophilia

Bigot Point:

Marriage Equality will lead to Pedophilia!

 Short answer no, no it will not. I had actually forgotten this disgusting argument until it was actually said to me in the comments section of our YouTube channel. It is shocking that even today there are some ignorant people who try to spread this filth.

 If someone is against marriage equality because they claim it will lead to pedophilia then they are sowing discord, plain and simple. They are just saying this to try to associate gay people and pedophiles in an effort to vilify gay people in order to further their own agenda.

 With homosexuality existing in only about 10% of the population its obvious if marriage lead to pedophilia it isn't gay marriage that would do the leading.

 

 But the argument is actually far more disingenuous then that, with less then 1% of pedophiles identifying as homosexual. 

 As you can see if the people using this argument were genuine they would be trying to outlaw straight marriage and fighting tooth and nail for gay marriage.

 For the record not one of the many marriage equality bills has ever promoted (or even mentioned) pedophilia. Because it is a completely different issue. If there is ever a bill trying to allow pedophilia in parliament there will be riots on the streets.

Again the definition of marriage should be the union of two* consenting adults.

 Be aware that the people making this horrific argument are also the kind of people who are advocating Natural Marriage with the legal age as young as 13 and Biblical Marriage with the legal age of 12. 

You have to wonder why these people are spreading lies about the gay community.


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Thursday, 7 July 2016

Bigot Point: Straight Pride

Bigot Point: Straight Pride


 Recently a very misinformed person commented on one of my YouTube videos saying they had straight pride. Now i am not insulting the person here, they didn't understand the difference between gender and sexuality, they claimed sexuality to be a lifestyle choice, and strangely them having straight pride somehow made me a "straightophobe' and so on. 

 One could argue that someone with access to the internet has no excuse to be so ignorant. However we don't know the age of the person or if they have very strict filters on their browser or have very restricted or supervised internet use. We just don't know so we should give that person (and others like them) the benefit of the doubt.


 My response to the straight pride thing was simply that i didn't care, as i didn't see anything inherently bigoted about having straight pride. 
 I didn't understand how you could really justify it though, i mean what obstacles have straight people overcome because of their sexuality, that gay people also don't have to deal with? 



 What areas of our predominantly heterosexual dominated society oppress, vilify or discriminate against straight people for being straight. 
 It just seemed a little bit silly and i wondered if there were any people who claimed 'straight pride' who were not also homophobic? If so what exactly are they so proud of? 


 I kind of get it in that straight people dominate most of society but is that really something to be proud of while gay people don't even have equal rights? What kind of person would be proud of that? Again i suppose they would have to be proud of homophobia as well.



 There was the #HeterosexualPrideDay recently but that was set up as satire, though sadly some did take it very seriously.



 So if you are into this whole straight pride thing and are not homophobic please comment and answer some of the questions i have asked. 
 At the moment i am highly doubtful that anyone celebrating 'straight pride' isn't also against gay people, but i would love to be proven wrong.
 Just as an aside i am way more likely to respond to comments if they are coherent, not insulting, and make a valid point or ask an interesting question.



Saturday, 25 June 2016

Bigot Point: "Gay marriage leads to bestiality."

Bigot Point: 

"Gay marriage leads to bestiality."



 Some creepy people have tried to link homosexuality with bestiality, when there is in reality no link between the two. 
 With homosexuality being naturally exhibited in about 10% of humanity, we can extrapolate that the number of homosexuals who exhibit Zoophilia
would be far less then the number of heterosexuals that do. 
 So if those arguing against allowing marriage equality (due to a fear of animal-human marriage) were serious they would be arguing for same sex marriage and trying to outlaw heterosexual marriage as heterosexuals would be more likely to suffer from zoophilia.
 But they are not because its clear those saying this kind of hate speech are only interested in spreading homophobia.

Definitions:
Zoophilia: Sexual fixation on  animals
Bestiality: Sexual acts with animals.
For this post when i write animals i am referring to non-human animals.


 But this argument is even worse as none of the marriage equality legislation has even hinted at allowing human-animal marriage. Of course none of the bills have even mentioned decriminalizing bestiality. The reason for this is that allowing same sex couples equal rights is a completely different issue.  


 Again this point is made to simply vilify gay people, to try to associate their desire to have equal rights with something that is seen as wrong by our society. As those seeking to deny marriage equality have to stretch this far , it shows that there really are no valid arguments against marriage equality.


 I see nothing wrong with the legal definition of marriage being the union of two* consenting adults.  
 As soon as anyone tries to argue that we don't need the participants to be consenting (and adult) i (and i hope most Australians) would have a serious problem with that. 
  * The number of consenting adults allowed in any given marriage is a completely different point.



 If the government ever tries to make human-animal marriage legal i will oppose that, as the animal can not consent. But there is no reason why we should oppose equal rights to gay people, lets address one issue at a time, lets not try to muddy the waters with fear-mongering nonsense. 



 If someone is trying to use this argument against marriage equality, you would be better served finding someone who is more honest and actually knows what they are talking about.
 Remember hate speech and vilification of gays is homophobia and homophobia leads to hate crimes.
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Saturday, 11 June 2016

Bigot point: "Same-sex marriage will be forced on everyone."

Bigot point:

"Same-sex marriage will be forced on everyone."


This point has most recently been seen written as; "extreme gender ideology imposed on everyone" in a recent attack of equality.



 First let me state that none of the marriage equality bills i have read has even hinted at forcing same-sex marriage upon anyone. The bills just seek to bring our marriage legislation back inline with the constitution and allow all Australians the same rights of legal marriage.
 Existing heterosexual marriages will not be effected by allowing equal marriage rights, please read some of the proposed bills if you do not believe this.



 Generally speaking people that are fighting for equality are equally concerned with everyone's rights and freedoms, forcing straight people into gay relationships is just not something i can see any of us doing. We are not the ones trying to force our ideology on anyone, we are not the ones trying to force you to deny your true self.



 As for "extreme gender ideology imposed on everyone", that's really some rather disingenuous and inflammatory language, It is difficult for myself or any rational person to understand what is meant by this kind of rhetoric. Perhaps the bigots who use this language are trying to imply that allowing marriage equality would turn people gay? I don't know how anyone could think that, but sexuality doesn't really work that way.


 Also being homosexual isn't extreme ideology at all, it is well documented aspect of normal sexuality. Homosexuality is a natural part of human gender identity. These bigots that think they are above the laws of nature make me so sad. The extreme ideology would be claiming that homosexuality is unnatural, harmful of somehow wrong.



 The only way that marriage equality is forced on everyone is that after it passes every Australian gay or straight will have the right to marry (if they wish). You will still be able to choose not to marry and be able to choose who you marry. The only way this effects you is if you fall in love with a member of the same sex, and you both desire to marry under law.



 Again, making the marriage laws constitutional and allowing marriage equality wouldn't effect any religions current definition of marriage. Australian legal marriage is not meant to be the current definition of marriage of any one religious sect, and the two things are indeed separate, improving one does not effect another.
 It would however allow those religions that accept the natural diversity of human sexuality to practice their religion and allow their practitioners the same legal rights as those whose definition of marriage matches the 2004 changes.





 If someone is using this kind of argument to justify their own prejudices, i would suggest they have no idea of the reality of the situation or are simply trying to spread an anti-gay agenda.
 




Friday, 10 June 2016

Bigot Point: "Marriage equality will destroy freedom of speech!"

Bigot Point:

"Marriage equality will destroy freedom of speech!"

 

 Sometimes you may hear bigots cry that freedom of speech will be lost if we allow equal rights in Australia. 
 This is simply not true. To the best of my knowledge, and i have checked, none of the bills concerning marriage equality have also aimed to reduce freedom of speech laws at all. 



 Just so your aware of the truly disingenuous nature of this argument, Australia doesn't even really have any free speech protection in our constitution.  
 We do have a freedom of political speech (protecting our political opinions from governmental prosecution) protected by the constitution, which shouldn't apply to arguments against equal rights, just as it would not be effected by laws embracing marriage equality. 
 Please be aware that John Howard, (who also changed the marriage laws in order to exclude same-sex couples), reintroduced an antiquated sedition law, reducing Australian rights to free speech.


 Freedom of speech in Australia is a complicated topic and i am not a lawyer, we do have an implied freedom of speech here at least. What is important to remember is that marriage equality bills have never and i doubt ever will effect free speech legislation. 


 If the bigots using this argument instead mean that equal rights will destroy anti-discrimination laws, then again that would be erroneous as no pro-marriage equality bill would address, let alone lessen any existing anti-discrimination laws. 
 The only way a marriage equality bill is related to anti-discrimination is in the fact that bringing equal rights back into marriage law would make the marriage act non-discriminatory. 
 It might shock you to learn that religious organisations are already exempt from many anti-discrimination laws. I know i would be uncomfortable if any organisation i was associated with desired or accepted exemption from such things.


 Now perhaps the bigots mean that hate speech laws will be destroyed if we allowed marriage equality. The same reasoning goes here, the two laws have little to do with one another, marriage equality bills would not alter hate speech legislation. Marriage equality will neither strengthen nor diminish anti hate speech laws.



 I should note that anti-hate speech laws in Australia are rarely enforced, one simply needs to look at the anti-gay hate groups webpages or press releases to see hate speech flaunting the standards of any civilized society.



 As you can see anyone making this kind of argument is ether very ill informed or is lying in order to further their own dubious desires. Many of the hate groups that have come out against marriage equality use this kind of disingenuous language and it should offend us all. It personally disgust me, i can only imagine if i were Christian and saw so many of these lairs spouting falsehoods and sowing discord among Australians.

 







Sunday, 5 June 2016

Bigot Point: Marriage Equality threatens religious freedom.

Marriage Equality threatens my 

religious freedom.




 If you are against marriage equality because you believe in freedom of religion then i have great news for you, you don't need to be bigoted anymore. Wait, read on and you will see how you can fight for religious liberties and LGBT (Lesbian Gay bisexual Transgender equality.



 So at the moment in Australia marriage is restricted to opposite sexes. This applies to all Australians whatever your religious beliefs.
 The Marriage act was changed by John Howard in 2004 specifically to prevent marriage equality.



 Now currently the marriage laws match the views of a small group of religious (some Christian and Islamic) people . But what about those who do not follow one of the homophobic religions. There are even denominations of  Abrahamic religious followers who are for equality. or those who do not adhere to any religion at all?


 At the moment under Australian law those peoples freedom of religion is being violated, as they are being forced to practice another religions doctrine, or being prevented from following their own religious doctrine. The current Marriage laws are clearly unconstitutional.


Section 116 of the Constitution of Australia reads:
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.



 And no, when the laws are changed back so that they allow marriage equality, it will not effect freedom of religion. Because no one will be forced into any marriage. Your church or mosque can still discriminate and ban homosexuals from their religion, marriage equality wont change that.
 

 Australian law must be free from all religions, i am sure you would not like living under the laws of another religion, as that would truly impede your own religious practices. So please don't fight for others to live under a religious dogma that is not their own.


 As you can see if a person is truly worried about religious freedoms they have to be on the side of marriage equality not the side that is fighting to prevent freedom of religion.




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