Showing posts with label prejudice. Show all posts
Showing posts with label prejudice. Show all posts

Monday, 30 May 2016

BIGOT POINT: Children need both a biological Mother and Father.

BIGOT POINT:

Children need both a biological Mother and Father.



 This is an interesting one and i have heard it by some otherwise rational people. While on the surface such a statement might seam almost reasonable, personally this argument makes me sick, and it gives me great pleasure to debunk it. 
First lets look at what this argument is actually arguing against.


Those bigots using this argument are against:

* Same sex couples who are already raising children.
* Those who are caring enough to adopt a child.
* Those who choose to look after foster care children.
* Those who raise children from their partners former relationship,whether the need arises through separation, death or unfitness of the biological parent.
* Relatives who raise children because the parents are unable to do so for whatever reason.
* Single parents.

 As you can see when you actually examine their argument, its rather shocking. These people think children are better off on the street then in caring homes. I hope they never gain the power to remove these children from their homes.



 Then we have to consider that some biological parents are not fit to raise children. biological parents can unfortunately mutilate, neglect, indoctrinate, molest and abuse their own children. 
 Do these bigots really think that children are better off in that kind of environment then if they were adopted by a couple who really wants to care for the child or raised  by a single parent?
 I would hope not, but that is their argument. I would also hope they would put aside their prejudices if they were in a position to choose what environment a child was raised in.



 Their argument also neglects the fact that single people and gay couples often have extended family's of both sexes. Thankfully not all family's would turn their back on a single parent or same sex couple who are raising a child. Meaning the child will have both male and female influences.



 In the case of surrogacy, the birth mother, or sperm donor (are their better words for these amazing people?) who help a same-sex couple (or even a straight couple) often have an important place within this extended family.


 Further independent studies have repeatedly shown that same-sex couples are equal to or in some cases even better parents than their straight counterparts. I think this is probably because for same sex couples having a child is almost always a choice, and often a difficult path. So the decision is not made lightly.


 Some bigots will argue that the child of a same-sex couple will be bullied. The irony of this is mind blowing as it is people like those who make this argument raising bigoted children that do this kind of bullying. Surely the answer is to educate children and stop the bullying, to protect the children from bullying.


 There is also the fact that not all same-sex couples ever want to have children. The desire to have children is not and never has been a prerequisite to marriage eligibility in Australia (I am aware that some bigots argue it is, but ill go into that nonsense in another post).


 How could i forget the ridiculous spin off argument that same-sex parents would create gay children. This is so stupid its difficult to address, ill just say that most LGBT people are born from and raised by straight people.



  I would argue that instead of children needing both a biological mother and father, that children are better off with one or more adults who care about them. No one is depriving these children of anything, they are being gifted with a home that truly cares for them.





Thursday, 12 November 2015

Should we call out bigotry?

Bigots, Prejudice and Homophobia.

Should we call out bigotry?


The Australian "christian" lobby are at it again. They are opposing equal rights, trying to limit marriage and being generally hypocritical. We have seen them before; with their outrageous claims of consequences of "changing marriage', more nonsense about "changing Marriage", claiming there are "victims" of marriage, and incredibly claiming they shouldn't be called bigots for being bigoted.

So what happened this time? Well the Greens brought another equal rights bill before parliament. Some opposed the bill. Why? Well, honestly i don't know why any decent person would oppose equal rights. Now i don't know the individuals who opposed this are in fact bigots or homophobic, but isn't the act of opposing a bill that would give gay people equal rights in and of itself, bigoted and homophobic?  So naturally describing them as bigots, prejudiced, or homophobic would fit, wouldn't it? 
That's what someone did. Seems to me he simply accurately
described those displaying bigotry as bigots.



The quotes in bold are actually from the ACL website, link provided if you don't believe me. 
The reply in italic is my opinion on the matter, i always try to be honest and as respectful as i can be to those who want to prevent me from having the same rights as they have.



 “Adam Bandt’s labelling of three parliamentarians ‘bigots’ simply because they are standing up for marriage between one man and one woman is a new low in Australian politics,” Mr Shelton said.

But you see that's the thing isn't it, they are not "standing up for man-woman marriage", if they were they wouldn't be bigots. There is noting wrong with liking man-woman marriage, what is bigoted is opposing marriage equality. Not wanting another group to have the same rights and privileges as you due to their race, religion, sexuality or gender. The bill before parliament in no way canceled, negated or negatively effected man-woman marriage. So if that was the reason for opposing it, they need to vote for it immediately.



 “Changing the definition of marriage will take away freedom of conscience, thought and religion from millions of Australians and it will lead to more children being denied their parents. All Australians must be free to discuss these consequences without fear of being labelled a ‘bigot’,” Mr Shelton said.

First no one is "changing the definition of marriage", we just want to make our marriage laws constitutional and non discriminatory. No, no it really wont take away any such things from any Australians, again its about allowing all Australians to have equal marriage rights, no one loses. I honestly have no idea, "more children being denied their parents", seriously, what the hell is that about? The legal marriage age isn't being changed. Children can only benefit form their same sex parents being treated equally under the law by being married, surely. Marriage is a good thing, why is the ACL seemingly so against marriage and helping children's parents get married? 
That last bit, after he makes so many disingenuous comments, can you imagine if this issue is allowed to go to a plebiscite? 
How can i possibly make this simpler, that's why people label those who spout bigotry as bigots because spouting bigotry is bigoted.
Also i am curious if the ACL was opposed to the changes made by Howard in 2004, which you may remember the "definition of marriage" was changed to block same sex couples from marrying. I have a feeling that the ACL are not advocating we repeal those changes. As that would allow those religions that accept the natural variations in human sexuality to marry their loving couples, somehow i doubt there really concerned about redefining the legal definition of marriage, or freedom of religion for that matter.
Also just quickly the current definition of marriage is unconstitutional as it violates freedom of religion, The laws should not be made to favor any one religion over another, and yet marriage laws have been changed to do so. Anyone for freedom of religion must be for marriage equality or they are probably a hypocrite.




“A law which effectively labels most Muslims, Christians, ethnic Australians and other supporters of man-woman marriage as ‘bigots’ is not the way to unite Australia.”

 The marriage equality bills don't do any such thing. To the best of my knowledge this bill didn't address hate speech, or anti-vilification laws. Though i personally feel we need some, as i can only imagine the damage the ACL could do if it opposes equality coming up to a national vote.
Again supporting man-woman marriage doesn't make you a bigot, but opposing marriage equality does.



 Mr Shelton said the Turnbull Government’s peoples’ vote on marriage to be held after the election should be conducted in a respectful manner where both sides were free to speak without fear.

Respectful...I don't consider the ACL to be respectful at all. I don't have confidence that they can be respectful at all in the future. 
 Look, i have no problem with a group opposing equality, its a bigoted, prejudiced act but if that's their way then fine.  
What i do have a problem with is that these groups never actually seem to honestly address the topic, its always nonsense about religious freedom (that their actually fighting to prevent), or children well being (that their opposition to equality actually endangers), or timeless tradition (since 2004), change is bad (except when it furthers discrimination, like when Howard changed the law), etc.


Its all really very sad, its the same nonsense circular "arguments" over and over again, none of it is really important or even relevant. I really don't understand this kind of film-flam act, where they say bigoted things, but then get upset when someone calls them out on it. 
Also i cant help but imagine what they could do if they turned their efforts to doing good in the world instead of persecuting homosexuals. I mean surely there is good to be done, why not do good?